NOTABLE QUOTES with commentary
CAE Student quotes (from Internet blogs):
“After a horrible night, being sick and only 4.5 hours of sleep, I woke up at 0430 because
I had the first flight of the day. I took some painkillers, left my breakfast for what it was,
and went to dispatch with my flymate”
“I found it quit (sic) hard, I was sweating, I was nervous, I barely payed (sic) any
attention to the tower and didn't had the time to listen out what and who was talking on
the frequency, and to keep an eye on your instruments and the other traffic was just a
“I hear the tower speaking to somebody else. I almost have to turn final. Frequency
is clear and I wanted to try for a 2nd time when I heard “44P, number two follow the
archer, cleared to land, rwy 04R”. I thought immediately “Number two? Did he said
number two? Archer? Which Archer? I’m on final you …. !!!!!!..! And off course
there’s no Archer in sight! Not in front or behind me. Not on the left or right. But I was
wrong, there WAS an Archer…on the runway below, just in front of me, positioned and
holding, ready to take off as soon as he got the clearance. There was only one little tiny
problem, I was on short final and there was no way I could land. I remember I heard the
voice of Achmed The Dead Terrorist in my head saying “holy crap!”. I hit the throttle
to full power, flaps up. When the tower finished giving the Archer below me his take
off clearance I said “very friendly”, “Falcon tower 44P RUNWAY 04 RIGHT, going
around!”. I saw that the aircraft below me started to roll just a couple of seconds before I
flew over him. “Archer 44P, roger, make euhm…right traffic and euhm…turn crosswind
when able.” I don’t think I was nervous…I didn’t had the time to be stressed, only time
to react…I know the plane below me was climbing in the same axis as I was…I looked
behind and below and had him in sight. To be sure not to hit him I turned a bit to the right
to fly next to the runway and I turned crosswind as soon as possible to separate us. When
I extended my crosswind I heard, “Archer 44P, sorry for that, you are number 3 and
cleared to land runway 04R, advise when you have the traffic in sight”
“And off course the run-up of the bird was a complete mess again. When I started to do
the right magneto check, the plane started to vibrate horrible and the RMP dropped to
This is what is going on in the skies over the residential areas of Mesa. With the virtually
continuous student flights over the neighborhoods, it is only a matter of time before…..
We wonder how the Mayor, the City Council, the FAA, and the Airport Manager are
going to feel about that when they could have done something to prevent it.
Azcentral.com Mon Dec 23, 2013:
“David Luna, who was appointed this year to fill a City Council vacancy from east
Mesa’s District 5, will seek election to the seat in 2014. ……Luna said the airport and
neighbors have no choice but to coexist, and if the city more fully educated residents on
federal flight rules and airport operations, some of their concerns might abate”.
This City Council aspirant is unable to distinguish between concerns regarding the
CAE flight school and other aviation issues that don’t exist. The neighbors and Falcon
Field coexist just fine. However, the neighbors cannot ever co-exist with CAE? Oxford’s
current practice of bombarding residential areas on 3 sides of the airport with constant
touch and go flights at the lowest legal altitude and full throttle. Wake up Mr. Luna, this
inane comment makes you look foolish!
Azcentral.com Wed Dec 11, 2013:
Otto Shill: “Right now, Falcon Field (Airport) is going through some real challenges
with a neighborhood close to the end of the runway”.
Mr. Shill, the President of the Mesa Chamber of Commerce and the local AOPA
representative, continues to misrepresent the problem to the media by implying that
there is but a single neighborhood close to the end of a runway that is unhappy with
the changes in flight activity at Falcon Field. If he would check the public records, he
would find that formal noise complaints are widespread in all areas around the airport.
It is this kind of deception and incompetence that impedes a solution to the constant
bombardment of residential areas all around the airport. He also knows full well that
CAE/Oxford is the sole source of the problems. Shameful comment, Mr. Shill!
Azcentral.com Wed Dec 11, 2013:
“People might complain about the noise at the airports, but we remind people that that’s
the sound of money, the sound of enterprise, the sound of business coming into the East
Valley,” said Roc Arnett, East Valley Partnership president.
And my we remind you, Mr Arnett, that this is NOT the “sound of money, the sound of
enterprise, the sound of business coming into the East Valley.” It is, instead, the sound
of one tenant that took over Falcon Field for its own purposes and whose presence is
actually DISCCOURAGING businesses from locating there! Try asking some of those
trying to recruit businesses to Falcon Field. It is not just those concerned about noise
and safety threats to the surrounding community who are concerned with the CAE/